The Great Evil Beast returned beyond Hells boarders and there rested and turned itself into an endless black ocean and anyone who goes there never Returns! By the way, of course two omnipotent characters in the same Universe shouldn't exist. Wasent the Spectre on the same level as the evil beast? The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. The Beyonder and the One-Above-All are godlike beings in the Marvel Universe, but one is definitely a more supreme being. Prior to that he gathered the entire power of the multiverse to put up a shield on his house from the beyonder, who laughed it off. I know all that and I read the actual comics too. Updated Dec 18, 2021. You can add in Yahweh, GEB, Michael, and Lucifer along with all other principalities and PR Beyonder would STILL crush them if he wanted to. (CIS off). Great Evil Beast The Great Darkness Prime Earth: 698 B: Elaine Belloc Elaine Belloc Vertigo: : Michael Demiurgos Michael Demiurgos Vertigo: 4.5 T: The Presence The Presence Prime Earth: : Destiny Of The Endless Destiny Vertigo: 588 B: Lucifer Morningstar Samael Vertigo: 5.4 T: team class: 105 T The original concept of PR Beyonder was made to be above and beyond everything around him. @isaac_clarke: Beyonder isn't omnipotent doe. If I remember correctly, he was contemplating ending all existence sitting in a hotel room, and also complained that nothing was fun for him since his every thought became reality. But I think that if they actually fought, it'd be more like a stalemate. By "Supreme" I mean the Presence or whatever the heck is the absolute "Supreme power" over at DC, cause that's what Beyonder was. This topic is locked from further discussion. The Great Evil Beast should win, not easily of course. He's just on a whole nother level from GEB. Did you miss the Pre-Retcon part, lol? He barely even knew how powerful he actually was up until Dave opened his mouth. Concerning the ''overmonitor'' it was stated in one panel and we've never seen anything else. KMC Forums > Comic Book Forums > Comic Book 'Versus' Forum > The Great Evil Beast Vs PR Beyonder. The Beyonder tanked an attack that would have destroyed Billions of dimensions. Fate scans just look like wild acid trips. It's quite simple nothing short of a Supreme being stalemates Beyonder. He didn't even get damaged by that attack, though. Which of these omiversal powers shall win?!?! He caused Multiversal wide destruction by being agitated. The term "nigh-omnipotent" gets thrown around a lot, but it doesn't actuallymean anything; no matter how powerful something is, if it isn't infinitely powerful, then its infinitely far away from being infinitely powerful. Pre Retcon Beyonder 10/10. Anything that isn't omnipotent is infinitely weaker than anything that isomnipotent. Monica was introduced as the second Captain Marvel and sh He is not a true omnipotent as he himself was created, and the Primal Monitor is also questionably as powerful as him. So simple math will tell you that the Beyonder should be able to wipe the floor with 99% of fiction lol. 0. @rolldestroyer: I'm not claiming that MM is as powerful as Beyonder. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. in the comic itself the great evil beast didn't even know its purpose, he sought help from swamp thing and some others to understand its purpose. 146 / 41.8%. BUT OBVIOUSLY EVERY BEYONDER FANBOY IS GOING TO COME IN HERE LIKE "Every Marvel abstract was totally popping their pants when Beyonder only had half power, so he must beat GEB!". Bring me more proof about the Overmonitor and other proof that the Presence isn't the God of the DC Universe and then maybe we can agree on something. Wow, these Dr. LMAO , that Swamp Thing is bold !!! Elaine Belloc would win under both scenarios, 2nd would be pointless. - 'No force in existence can destroy him'. and you think GEB is not? they accept this with ease. His intellect isn't anything the GEB can play off - short of a retcon during the battle he's fighting someone that is omnipotent in all senses of the word and given the last fight the GEB had with a 'kinda' omnipotent character it shouldn't be much of a fight. 1 wins (33.3%) 0 (0%) 2 wins (66.7%) Great Evil Beast The Great Darkness Prime Earth: 698 B: Michael Demiurgos Michael Demiurgos Vertigo: 4.5 T: Lucifer Morningstar Samael Vertigo: 5.4 T: The Writer Grant Morrison Prime Earth: So I'll take it I don't have to put my fruitcake-making apron on? Would this be a good match? Though I'm not sure if TOAA was even around during Marvel's classic age, I'll have to check up on that. 92 B. The guy was twirling his finger to repair the multiverse while sweet talking the Beyonder - short of maybe the Living Tribunal - none of them have that kind of power. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/pre-retcon-beyonder-vs-great-evil-beast-562973/, http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/geb-vs-pre-retcon-beyonder-1489528/. Created by Atemporal. The Great Evil Beast is on the level with The Presence. Clearly neither is the GEB - but in the sense prior to the retcons he was a character whose will defined reality around him and he was infinitely more powerful than anyone else on panel around him. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. The Presence, Elaine Belloc, Great Evil Beast, The Spectre, Michael Demiurgos and Mandrakk (DC Comics) vs The One-Above-All, The Fulcrum, Pre Retcon Beyonder, Classic Living Tribunal, Pre Retcon Molecule Man and Nemesis (Marvel Comics) Battle Who Would Win 5 comments 67% Upvoted This thread is archived Nemesis Nemesis Earth-616. Created by Atemporal. And to the other people bringing up TOAA, he is basically The Presence and The Great Evil Beast. How the fuck does a "millions of times stronger than the multiverse" Beyonder become an Inhuman, then a Cosmic Cube? So the Molecule Man was weaker than the Abstracts - but he was called in to deal with the Beyonder because of his cool-factor? After all , all that Beyonder did during his "rumble in the jungle" was just a result of his imagination - in fact , he has never beaten Celestials , LMAO !!! This is actually spite against GEB. Great Evil Beast vs Cthulhu. All I'm claiming is that he was able to challenge him. DC doesn't have marvel's dumb levels of infinity rule. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Yeah I'm done for today. No, all these "god" fights are annoying. Either you're omnipotent, or you're not. _____ Sometimes all you have left is your Rage. Can anyone name a being above classic Beyonder Besides TOAA? Beyonder is on the level with The Spectre who takes orders for the presence. XD. He was a way wanked character. power stats. How about being able to casually overpower Death from DC, who controls both Life and Death in the DC multiverse? If not, then we're on the same page really. 588 B. The Beast would win. Again, it makes no sense. At that time in Marvel he was x times more powerful than the entire multiverse combined. Each possesses an effectively unlimited amount of power, and they have both treated . It may not display this or other websites correctly. #4. Register Sign in. As powerful as the Beyonder, he doesn't have the power to contend, He may be millions of times more powerful than the Multiverse, but The Beast is infinitely greater. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . 0. This is PRE-Retcon Beyonder, you know, before LT could do shit to him and pulled out that asswipe explanation. Ah well. | Class. Sep 20th, 2008 08:10 AM: Knowsbleed33 The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. I am unsure post-retcon Beyonder would even beat that version of her, which was a far . You're going to have to make a pretty compelling argument for anyone to believe that the Classic Beyonder would lose here. You must log in or register to reply here. 15 wins (31.9%) 1 (2.1%) 31 wins (66%) Great Evil Beast The Great Darkness Prime Earth. Ok, first of all, not all the multiverse of Marvel went against Beyonder. I chose the first option. The Great Evil Beast Vs PR Beyonder. I don't really know much about the GEB, but on the topic of omnipotence, I can say that it is an either/or thing. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, . vansonbee Originally posted by fangirl101 JavaScript is disabled. He was slapping around abstracts and made LT look like a kid. Mindset. Team Cosmic Armor Superman vs Team The One-Above-All. The Beyonder erased the concept of Death itself. tough call, i'll probably go with PR beyonder on this one, seeing how the multiverse was a droplet of water compared to his realm. Call it 'dumb' but the reality of the Marvel Universe was the way it was because he willed it to be. If you can give me one actual example of MM beating, not scaring, a nigh-omnipotent abstract, I yield to you, you are my master, and I will make you a fruitcake. Newest Battles with Great Evil Beast. The whole-yin/yang image - conflict shifting dialogue Stranger was sporting and what have you either implies they're fighting on some other plane, merged or stopped doing anything really after realizing the futility in it. That's fucking impressive. The connection between The Beyonder and Lucifer Morningstar is that they are both characters with unimaginable power who are some of the most powerful characters within their franchises and are more powerful than everything else in their respective Multiverses. Sep 20th, 2008 08:09 AM: Mindset Senior Member. @isaac_clarke: Yeah that whole "Cows can fly if I want them to thing" is dumb. I think that must be where the confusion's coming from. The Beyonder was shown on panel wiping out the entire Marvelverse. I've seen Silver Surfer getting knocked out by a brick and Thor by a mortar round. To be honest, the only time I can recall Beyonder actually going against an opponent of worth was MM, and he didnt just completely overpower him like he should have if he was truly infinitely infinitely infinitely more powerful than all Marvel abstracts combined. Text-only Version: Click HERE to see this thread with all of the graphics, features, and links. 15 wins (31.9%) 1 (2.1%) 31 wins (66%) Great Evil Beast The Great Darkness Prime Earth. Wait wait the Presence is not = TOAA at all. Searching Beyonder vs Great Evil Beast. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Beyonder Earth-616. Team Great Evil Beast vs Team Beyonder. I also dislike the misconception that the Spectre = LT just because of their positions during DC vs Marvel. Zeno is screwed. The Beyonder has never fought against someone of that level. This also means the Beyonder was in his true form the entire time and mxy>physics making him fodder to the 5th dimensional Imp himself. 0 . Speed. Team Beyonder. I believe they only equal TOAA's power when combined. Beyonder vs Great Evil Beast. Cows not to fly - etc. Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). And to the other people bringing up TOAA, he is basically The . LMAO , he was retconned , and guess who did that ? You are using an out of date browser. login to vote. The same could be said for GEB, Eternity, Living Tribunal, and even Galactus! That means Classical Beyonder was in no way dealing with an Omnipotent being, while GEB was doing so. So many things I can comment on this. Others like you also viewed John Wick VS The Punisher Captain America VS Solid Snake Besides Molecule Man was able to stalemate him, so saying that he's "omnipotent in all senses" is false! Each Super Power also has 3 levels (SPL). The Beyonder would create a new definition of speed and crush Zeno skull. The level is set when connecting that Super Power to a character. When he warped death he needed a host to bring it back meaning he couldn't do it on his own making him AGAIN fodder to Mxy. @isaac_clarke: Agreed that GEB isn't omnipotent. Ever. Created by TheDarkLord. But there's more proof right now showing that the Presence is indeed the God of DC. 698B. Menu. Not really a feat. Team The Presence vs Team The One-Above-All. cloud102. Jul 2, 2016. The Presence created the multiverse, and the GEB was = to him. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Ni dung chuyn sang thanh bn n u 1 Tiu s 2 S nghip Hin/n mc S nghip 2.1 Ban u 2.2 Cuc Cch mng Marvel 2.3 Giai on sau ca s nghip 3 Sch tham kho 4 c thm 5 Tham kho 6 Lin kt ngoi Toggle the table of contents Stan Lee 83 ngn ng Afrikaans Aragons Asturianu . In all honesty, I believe Beyonder has more feats. It contradicts logic. Still though, my opinion remains unchanged. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins 10/10. He was unable to stop Lucifer who is definitely not omnipotent. The Great Evil Beast returned beyond Hells boarders and there rested and turned itself into an endless black ocean and anyone who goes there never Returns! It is now called The ShadowLands The funny thing is that many people think Beyonder was omnipotent. The Great Evil Beast vs. Superhero battle match: Beyonder versus Great Evil Beast. quanchi112 Pr beyonder wins. Plus, what's the point of them joining together if they are already both omnipotent? Created by TheDarkLord. What about TOAA? That moon would get crushed. The writers (not their in-comic respresentation of TOAA) the actual writers. Official Superhero Database stats. Of course, one could argue that since Marvelverse's totality was like a drop of water next to Beyonder, and the Marvelverse totality would be = to DC's totality, logic demands for us to say that Beyonder was far more vast/grand that the creation power behind either Totalities. Remember how the GEB reaches out to touch his opposite's hand and bamo ceased to exist as far as comics give a damn? Well that's pretty damn obvious then, anyone would think a omnipotent could beat a non-omnipotent. That's hardly being less impressionable and it hardly matters how manipulatable the Beyonder is when the GEB can't capitalize on it. The Great Evil Beast is on the level with The Presence. | Class. Would this be a good match? LT, Multi-Eternity, Death, Galactus etc. They're talking bout pre-retcon Beyonder, who was omnipotent, not the retconned version, but the one from Secret Wars I & II. Even though TOAA is leveled with The Presence and The Great Evil Beast he isn't the strongest. PR B had the full backing of Marvel's boss Jim Shooter to be limitless and infinite. Beyonder is on the level with The Spectre who takes orders for the presence. Beyonder isn't and wasn't TOAA so he's not on the Presence's level. The Beyonder's true form is physics based. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. 588B. The Great Evil Beast(outside Lucifer comic run continuity) is the Primordial Darkness, He was the reincarnation of evil. Same for the Presence and the Great Evil Beast. Both of them were Omnipotent then. Spectre jobs a lot, whereas LT is the omniversal judge and has only ever been defeated like 2 or 3 times. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. The Great Evil Beast Vs PR Beyonder. Jmarshmallow. The Beyonder created a universe (ocean) which the the Marvel Universe was a drop of water in comparison. It is now called The ShadowLands This is why I hate nigh-omnipotent battles. Team Beyonder - vs - Team The Spectre # 1.8 K Team Beyonder beyonder and TOAA are two supreme beings. Hell of a lot more impressive than anyone there mentioned (though their will affects reality - just not to that degree often at all). About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . And, as mentioned, two omnipotent beings simultaneously existing is a logical contradiction. Not assumptions, actually BEAT. True, it would have probably been killed by The Presence, but it would have destroy alot of the DCverse in the fight. 2022 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. Gender: Unspecified Location: United States. I'm using that an expression of how he described his perception of reality - being his reality. Given the MM was the second most powerful being in creation at the time and could only hold his own momentarily certainly beats any comparison he might have with the GEB. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Zeno can't even keep up with someone that's really fast. GEB is slightly below presence and presence is infinitely above beyonder. One mention of how futile his fight with the Presence was caused the GEB to completely change his plans / actions - reaching out to the Presence to cease to exist. I'm just saying that Beyonder is by no means omnipotent. Perhaps I'm ignorant of a time GEB was though. 698B. Who will win in a fight between Beyonder and Great Evil Beast? Official Superhero Database stats. If you care to argue that, then by all means go for it! Great Evil Beast The Great Darkness Prime Earth. So yeah, it's that guy vs GEB, a polar opposite and equal to a nigh-supreme being. . TOAA is the strongest Marvel character but God is with DC. While both may have been confused about existence, Beyonder is the only one, to my knowledge, who was tricked. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-great-evil-beast/90-151271/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-great-evil-beast/90-151271/. not that i disagree with you that God > GEB, just curious. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Unless GEB is omnipotent I don't see him beating Beyonder. GEB is not equal to TOAA. Clearly neither is the GEB - but in the sense prior to the retcons he was a character whose will defined reality around him and he was infinitely more powerful than anyone else on . It was God's dark-side and was in ever way equal to The Presence. Spectre was getting owned by DoV Captain Marvel. Damn. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . Created by windshadow. [url=https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-great-evil-beast/90-151271/][/url], https://www.superherodb.com/beyonder-vs-great-evil-beast/90-151271/. She inherited the Demiurgic power through her father and with Lucifer's guidance, she molded and created her own universe, and that was a vastly weaker and earlier version. 6 wins (8.8%) 1 (1.5%) 61 wins (89.7%) Beyonder Earth-616: power stats. Ax have you read Secret Wars 2, just from skimming through your posts it seems like you don't know that much about Beyonder. There was no reference to TOAA back then, when he did his thing. Uh , I think Over-void is above Presence , and Beyonder is not equal to TOAA , he is just a cosmic cube , LMAO ! Team Beyonder. Omnipotence, even at the megaversal/multiversal level of The Presence, can still cause someone to lose if they are really, really. I'm honestly not saying GEB wins. He was an unpolished Supreme God for all of fiction. The Beyonder and the One-Above-All are godlike beings in the Marvel Universe, but one is definitely a more supreme being. that so? Which means that he's not on GEB level either. Elaine Belloc Elaine Belloc Vertigo. Neither did cease to exist, both of them were seen 26 issues after their fusion/fight/whatever you choose to believe: After this, The great evil beast was never seen (though it's possible he appeared in demon). Both the Beyonder and the One-Above All have a decent claim to being the strongest character in the Marvel Universe. In fact, I would argue against Beyonder. Strength. On paper when the Beyonder is omnipotent - the fight shouldn't be much different. Both GEB and the Presence were said to be omnipotent but it makes no sense that two beings are omnipotent. The One-Above-All The One-Above-All Earth-616. Though I think I will go with either Beyonder or a stalemate. Don't want to stray too off topic and get my thread locked like my Sasuke vs Deathstroke one. Just think about it. This doesn't mean that a higher class would always beat a lower class character. But both of them are considered "nigh-omnipotent," basically meaning that the whole point of their powers is to define reality around them as they see fit. Does that mean it is part of the character? Well apparently the GEB went to arm-wrestle the Presence for eternity in Heaven - while the Presence did other things and writers forgot the GEB existed. No, all these "god" fights are annoying. @isaac_clarke: And who, exactly, did MM beat that makes him more powerful than all the abstracts? Can you prove your god is more powerful than that god? (heck, it's almost a rip off). Team Great Evil Beast. Neither of them are unstoppable, the only difference is that Beyonder can get easily manipulated. The One-Above-All & Empty Hand (Earth-7) vs Team Doctor Strange (Black Priest) Team Great Evil Beast vs Team The Fulcrum. But the bigger the difference in Class is, the more obvious it is who'll win in a fight. For a guy who's supposed to be "all-powerful" he was awfully dumb, and constantly confused. @jmarshmallow: he always knew how powerful he was. The difference before the retcon is the Beyonder was actually expressing how reality itself was the way it was because he wanted it to be that way. But Beyonder not only owned the entire MU, he did it casually, and his reality warping makes GEB's powers a non-factor. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . You can't be millions of times more powerful than that. Too much speculation. Bo Boink69 9 mo 22 d Team Beyonder - vs - Team The Spectre # 35 Team The Spectre every member in this team can defeat anyone alone except toaa impulse785 1 y 21 d Team Beyonder - vs - Team The Spectre # 41 The only character that imo is something akin to what Beyonder was, is the Primal Monitor. SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. Mainly because he's stupid and gullible. Molecule man only managed to hold him offf for a few moments. Team Cosmic Armor Superman vs Team The One-Above-All. He's also admitted that beyonder is far above him in terms of power. Considering DC God one-shotted the GEB its pretty clear they aren't equals. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate the Class. @isaac_clarke: Eh, it's more of a statement. Created by Mind. The Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the rest of the enitre multiverse combined. Team Beyonder vs Team The Spectre. A feat he wouldn't be able to do if Beyonder was truly omnipotent, which is the only thing I'm saying. Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse as per the famous scan, and the MU is at least = the DCU if not >>>>> than it. MM at the time was more powerful than the Abstracts - so I wouldn't know why that would be the case. GEB is crazy powerful but the beyonder is millions of times more powerful I thought the GEB was truly infinitely powerful. The Great Evil Beast was actually able to interact with The Presence on somewhat equal terms. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Elaine Belloc Elaine Belloc Vertigo. 6 wins (8.8%) 1 (1.5%) 61 wins (89.7%) Beyonder Earth-616. Like I said, I'm going with Beyonder 10/10. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. The Classic Beyonder. Quoted by Shooter as true omnipotient. 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